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	<title>Comments on: Psychiatry Stakes Out &#8220;Moral&#8221; Improvement</title>
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		<title>By: Rob Wipond</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rob Wipond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Sep 2008 00:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, but they&#039;re definitely trying to have it both ways! I think this psychiatrist&#039;s logic is: Your &quot;sickness&quot; IS your &quot;immorality&quot;... immorality itself is defined as a mental illness, and therefore needs to be &quot;treated&quot;...

You make a good point -- there&#039;s no evidence to suggest people with psychiatric labels are less or more moral than anyone else. But that&#039;s where these psychiatrists are seeing the next new frontier: the immoral, too, can be labelled ill and then &quot;cured&quot;. 

And when we think about it, isn&#039;t much of psychiatry already a process of making moral judgments about other people&#039;s character?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, but they&#8217;re definitely trying to have it both ways! I think this psychiatrist&#8217;s logic is: Your &#8220;sickness&#8221; IS your &#8220;immorality&#8221;&#8230; immorality itself is defined as a mental illness, and therefore needs to be &#8220;treated&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>You make a good point &#8212; there&#8217;s no evidence to suggest people with psychiatric labels are less or more moral than anyone else. But that&#8217;s where these psychiatrists are seeing the next new frontier: the immoral, too, can be labelled ill and then &#8220;cured&#8221;. </p>
<p>And when we think about it, isn&#8217;t much of psychiatry already a process of making moral judgments about other people&#8217;s character?</p>
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		<title>By: Alison Hymes</title>
		<link>http://mycanadianshield.ca/mindscape/?p=14&#038;cpage=1#comment-16</link>
		<dc:creator>Alison Hymes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Sep 2008 21:15:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They can&#039;t have it both ways.  They can&#039;t call it an &quot;illness&quot; and then also call it immorality.  Where is any evidence that people with psychiatric labels have morals or moral or immoral behaviors any different than the rest of the population.  My observation and experience tells me that labelled folks tend to be more honest than the rest of the population often getting us/them into trouble in a culture that values lying to get what you want or to placate others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They can&#8217;t have it both ways.  They can&#8217;t call it an &#8220;illness&#8221; and then also call it immorality.  Where is any evidence that people with psychiatric labels have morals or moral or immoral behaviors any different than the rest of the population.  My observation and experience tells me that labelled folks tend to be more honest than the rest of the population often getting us/them into trouble in a culture that values lying to get what you want or to placate others.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob Wipond</title>
		<link>http://mycanadianshield.ca/mindscape/?p=14&#038;cpage=1#comment-8</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob Wipond</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Sep 2008 04:52:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even worse, it&#039;s actually capitalism!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even worse, it&#8217;s actually capitalism!</p>
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		<title>By: Mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yes, this smacks of Marxism all over again. Your morals are greatly improved if you are powerless to live your own life, make your own mistakes and learn from them. Your morals are greatly improved if you are a mindless zombie on drugs and not able to live your own life but must be taken care of by someone else all your life so how can you possibly be immoral or truly moral for that matter? 

There are psychopolitical operatives in our society, in hospitals, schools, universities, etc.. whose main job is to demoralize us to the point where we need our drugs and our experts to &#039;come to our rescue&#039; and take us to la-la land where everything is rosy and taken care of by someone else and our minds are shut up and locked up forever so we will never say another sane, common sense thing as long as we live. THIS IS COMMUNISM!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yes, this smacks of Marxism all over again. Your morals are greatly improved if you are powerless to live your own life, make your own mistakes and learn from them. Your morals are greatly improved if you are a mindless zombie on drugs and not able to live your own life but must be taken care of by someone else all your life so how can you possibly be immoral or truly moral for that matter? </p>
<p>There are psychopolitical operatives in our society, in hospitals, schools, universities, etc.. whose main job is to demoralize us to the point where we need our drugs and our experts to &#8216;come to our rescue&#8217; and take us to la-la land where everything is rosy and taken care of by someone else and our minds are shut up and locked up forever so we will never say another sane, common sense thing as long as we live. THIS IS COMMUNISM!</p>
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